Re: There is ONE ISLAM, zero tolerance
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Posted by Hossam Rafik on 07:04:43 2006/01/04
In Reply to:
Former Indonesian president says Muslims and non-Muslims must un posted by Abdurrahman Wahid
Mr Wahid, from your message you said;
The essence of Islam is encapsulated in the words of the Quran, "For you, your religion; for me, my religion."
Dear Mr. Wahid this verse "For you, your religion; for me, my religion." - is "Mansoukha" in English language "CANCELLED", there is Nasekh and Mansoukh. Verses in the Quran cancel other verses, the cancelled verses are called "Mansoukha",and the verses that cancel others are called "Nasekh".
This verse is cancelled by Suret Al Tuba (the Last chapter in the Quran). Please go to any Islamic Library and read on Nasekh and Mansoukh.
Also, please before putting any verse from the Quran on the forum, please be honest in placing it completely, don't put a portion of the verse, the verse says "oh you Infidels, for you your religion; for me, my religion". And also put the reason behind the verse, in Islam there is "Asbab Al-Nezoul" which is "Reasons behind the bringing of the verse".
For every verse in the Quran, there is a reason, "Sabab Nezoul", why it came, and for the above verse Muhammed was weak in Mecca and he didn't have any army but just a few Muslims, so when the Quraish people came asking him questions and he couldn't answer Allah sent him this verse do get him away from the embarrassment and he said "oh you Infidels", and Infidels in itself is a bad word, its swearing.
Unfortunately, Muslims can't know what Islam is, cause more then 90% of the Muslims don't know Arabic, and out of the 10% rest only 20% are literate and out the 20% only a very few read the Quran, Tafaseer, Hadiths, Serat Al-Naby, Asbab Al Nezoul, Nasekh & Manoukh, Feqh.
The ones that really know it all, are the extensions of the Quraish tribe, the core of Arabia, as Muhammed extended the power of Quraish beyond Arabia, he bought their Idols;Alaty (Allah) Akbar, and Alo`oza (God of the Moon and his son the Crescent), their Ceremonies which gave them economical power; the Hajj (Coming to Mecca, Kissing the Black Stone and rotating around the Black House "the Ka`aba").
And in favor of attracting other neighbor ethnics and religions he enforced that Allah Akbar is also God of the Jews and Christians, he took Verses from Aljahalia Poems "The Moa`laqaat" and put in the Quran, and made this mix to bring out Islam.
Simply life of Muhammad, the Quran and the Hadiths, are majorily divided into two era's, the first one called the "Meccan era", where Muhammed was still weak in Mecca, he had no army, but only gained some state after his marriage to Khadiga (a very wealthy lady and trader and 15 years older than Muhammad, as he worked for her before marrying him).
The second era is called the "Median era"; after Khadiga died, Muhammad escaped at night from Mecca to Medina (Al-Hejra) cause the was bound to be killed, he went to Medina where the Jewish tribes. He had the money, made an army, and after some failed treaties with the Jews, he slaughtered and killed them all, became very powerful, becamse wild on women (wives and slaves), slaughtered vulgarly with his own hands, placed a booty for himself and Allaah (20%,) and started giving out all the verses of Killing, War, Raping etc.
He then came back to invade Mecca and take it, he made some deals with the wealthy and powerful Quraish tribe, and from then on, he had his hand all over Arabia, and started looking at the world around him.
So in conclusion, the Medina verses cancel the Mecca verses.
BinLadin, Taliban, the Wahabieen, are inline exactly with Islam, even how Mosaad Alzarqawy cuts the knecks of his captives is exactly and directly from the Quran and Mohammed. So there is no good Islam and bad Islam, there is one Islam and you need to know it.
The majority of the Muslims are human beings, they like to be good, and hate evil, and therefore they look for the good verses and good words from their religion. The overwhelming Muslims in the world have no idea of Islam, at most they would hardly read some verses from the Quran, not knowing what it means and they just believe what the Imam at the Mosque says.
Please Mr. Wahid, don't be offended, it's the truth, Islam is not a religion, it's an empire with a policy to conquer the world, and it's shelled in religion of Quraish, and forcibly squeezes itself with the religion of the Jews and Christians.
It's over, it's all known now, everybody is reading and knowing. Thousands and thousands of Muslims especially in the Middle East are leaving Islam out of reading and knowledge, thanks to the many efforts by former Muslims and non-Muslims.
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